So that it wouldn't get completely lost in the archives, here's something from the comments for Liberal Values Part II: Autonomy of the Individual.
Thoughts That Get Stuck In YOUR Head
If liberals are synonymous with "taking responsibility for ourselves", why the adamant liberal support for welfare programs?
I believe in welfare programs to the extent that there are those who CANNOT take care of themselves. The issues come from people who WILL NOT take care of themselves, and that is really the area of greatest curiousity for me.